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gossipДата: Воскресенье, 23.05.2010, 12:03 | Сообщение # 1
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СПОЙЛЕРЫ В НОВОСТЯХ
В этой теме выкладываются и обсуждаются разнообразные спойлеры к 4-ому сезону.
Напоминаю: флуд и офф-топ строго запрещены!
 
mirtaДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 01:58 | Сообщение # 2911
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Есть в них что-то такое...необъяснимо притягательное, не могу описать словами..МАГИЯ?!

да согласна....в них то что словами описать нельзя
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да да я за них, я с вами..

OMG нас все больше и больше


 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 02:13 | Сообщение # 2912
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http://www.thetvaddict.com/2011....ng-more - Ask the Addict: Spoilers for GOSSIP GIRL, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES, 90210, THE KILLING & More!
Do you have any spoilers for us GOSSIP GIRL addicts, specifically of the Chuck and Blair variety? — Leesa
The TV Addict: Having seen the next two episodes of the season we do, but since we were kindly asked by our friends at the CW not to specifically spoil any of the craziness that goes down when GOSSIP GIRL returns next week after far too long a hiatus, we hope you’ll accept a little piece of advice instead: Those of you who take Chuck and Blair’s “will-they-or-won’t-they” seriously should most definitely not watch Monday’s episode within reach of any throwable objects that have the potential to inflict pain on friends, family members — or dare we say that it — that very-pricey-just-purchased flat screen TV when thrown in frustration. You’ve been warned.


Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому
 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 02:15 | Сообщение # 2913
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http://www.tvfanatic.com/2011....drangle

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011....XLCA2KA - Gossip Girl - Episode 4.20 - The Princesses and the Frog


Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому

Сообщение отредактировал Cyon80 - Пятница, 15.04.2011, 02:18
 
барышняДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 07:46 | Сообщение # 2914
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http://www.thetvaddict.com/2011....ng-more - Ask the Addict: Spoilers for GOSSIP GIRL, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES, 90210, THE KILLING & More!

Очень это повеселило, спасибо!

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http://www.spoilertv.com/2011....XLCA2KA - Gossip Girl - Episode 4.20 - The Princesses and the Frog

Спасибо большое, Cyon80. Ух, ты, однако КАКОЙ они пресс-релиз накатали на 4.20.

ЭТО ВОЙНА МЕЖДУ Сереной и Блэр - у Блэр (Лейтон Мистер) похоже, что мечты начинают сбываться, но Серена (Блейк Лайвли) грозит испортить все вытащив на свет кое-что из прошлого Блэр. Чарли (приглашенная звезда Кейли ДеФер) становится подругой Ванессы (Джессика Зор), что может иметь или не иметь скрытые мотивы. Нэйт (Чейз Кроуфорд) разрывается между его отношениями с Рейной (приглашенная звезда Тика Самптер) и правдой, которую он должен хранить в тайне из лояльности к Чаку.

Вау! В первый раз я заинтригована, читая пресс-релиз. biggrin cry wacko


Плесень размножается спорами...Не спорьте с плесенью :)))))

Сообщение отредактировал барышня - Пятница, 15.04.2011, 09:28
 
anna2030Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 09:06 | Сообщение # 2915
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mne vot 4to interesno, plat'e na Leighton na fotke s Edom tozhe samoe, 4to i v promo, gde ona s Louis...hmm...sovsem zaputali(((

kstati o yevreyah, Sayrus evrey, a eshe po-moeu Kotti (shkol'naya svita cool tozhe bila kak-to svyazana s nimi, ona vrode eshe pereehala v Israel, a kak ya pomnyu ona i Isabell bili na s'emkah posledney serii....


I WANT DELENA SEASON!!!!

Сообщение отредактировал anna2030 - Пятница, 15.04.2011, 09:12
 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 13:36 | Сообщение # 2916
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барышня, спасибо еще раз.

Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому
 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 14:13 | Сообщение # 2917
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Наткнулась на размышлизмэ. Довольно интересный.
Well it's hardly news that you internalise Blair's character motivations and prioritse her over other characters which is fair enough- free speech and all. I don't know that you will get uch respect for this article from the writers as you clearly seemed to have ignore or missed what they were trying to explain. It is clearly a case of taking one phrase from the question and ignoring or dismissing the context with which the writers used the phrase, to write a blantantly sensationalist report. Any educated Journalist would be able to see that.

They clearly answered your question by saying that they don't necessarily subscribe to the term redeem when looking at Chuck's past sins, but more see his mistakes are platforms for him to learn and grow from so that he can eventually become a man who wouldn't make the same mistake again. They stressed that Chuck is still a child and young which indicates that he has time to grow up to be a man. It's not like he is Don Draper who is in his forties with a wife and a family and still acting up. He has time to mature and grow.

They also brought up the fact that Chuck and Blair were growing and maturing together in a really positive way until the Elizabeth entered the picture and Chuck was emotionally regressed by a huge betrayal and awful tragedy that in that moment Chuck let himself be conssumed by his grief and darkness and morph into the wrost version of himself. So the writers are clearing saying that Chucks mistake had context and wasn't some isolated incident that came out of a joy at screwing people over (which is a normally what most villians do. There was contexts and motivations and circumstances which lead Chuck to make the worst thing he has ever done.

The writers are clearly saying that they AREN'T writing Chuck as a villian. They are right him as a truly emotionally damaged messed up and possibly unhealthy boy who needs to grow into a man. Henry V play Chuck takes his name from in 4.01 is about a dassartdly Prince who eventually changes his ways and grows into the role of a respected King. There is also alot of elements of Beauty and the Beast in the writing for Chuck- the selfish and vain beast who must learn to love another if he wants to free the Prince that is trapped inside. The fact is that Chuck the man who is worthy of Blair YET. He still needs to grow and work into the man who IS worthy to love her and earn her love in return.

One thing which seems noticeable is that it is almost as though the writers are taking their grand concepts of classic literary techniques "all consumming love" "tragedy" "betrayal" and seeing how those Shakesperean or other concepts would work if teleported into the 21 century. If Romeo and Juliet and lived in this time could they have found a way to work through the obstacles seperating them instead of going to the extremes of killing themselves? If Hamlet had live to today would he have been able to find a way to deal with the grief of losing his and his mothers betrayal without slipping into a self destructive depression and costing him the life of Ophelia.

Does Chuck need to be redeemed? Well it really comes down to how you perceive the phrase redemption? Does it involved Chuck doing something to the equivalent of the IP? Or is redemption involve becoming the kind of person who wouldnt make the same mistake if given the chance to relive it again?

Personally I take the latter because while the former, the grand gesture, would be noble (for instances Chuck sacrificing BI his freedom etc for Blair)if CB have a chance of making it work it would be better in the long run for Chuck to become an emotionally healthier and stronger person who Blair can rely on, feel safe with and trust rather then the one off grand gesture.

Blair has too sides to her: The Dark side where there is the passionate vixen who likes playing sex games and gets off on scheming and taking people down and humilaitating them ("take downs are better the sex"); and the Light side which loves to day dream about hollywood actresses and wants the whole contenment of a relationship ("simple love"). She is a girl of contradictions which is why I love her.

Chuck showed Blair he is capable of loving her FOR both sides. He gets turned on by her bitchiness and manipulativeness and they have an undeniable passion for each other that no other couple matches. But he has also shown a deep affection and love for her light side for instance making her fairy tale prom come true and their relationship before the IP was very much the "simple love".

However, post IP Blair's sense of betrayal and mortification at herself and Chuck nad what their relationship has become has morphed her perception and has tainted the past for her. This has driven her this year to follow a completely different path and turn her self almost into an entirely different person and explore different things/outlets in order to feel like she isn't going to end up "lonely in hell". So in that context her friendship with Dan and opening herself up to him makes sense. She needs to learn to love herself ALL of herself Dark and Light and realise she isn't a bad person. To sacrifice one part of herself for another makes her half a person and not true to herself. So choosing to embrace her good side and completely reject her more grey traits isn't anymore healthier then her embracing her grey side and rejecting her light side. She needs to be love herself for who she is and accepted that she has flwas- someone who makes mistakes and isnt a perfect person but who is loyal and capable and strong and can turn her flaws and mistakes into strengths. As Elanor said to her in 4.07 she needs to learn that there is strength in being weak.

It not about being either the Good girl who never does wrong (the Dan ideal) or the Bad girl with the wild side (the Chuck ideal) but finding the happy medium between the two both.

Chuck has a lot to make up for in how the IP messed with Blair self esteem and opinion of herself and alot of that comes from him looking beyond his own issues and seeing Blair's. Where he can rectify that is by showing her he can be the man that can give her the safety and simplicity and trust of a relationship as much he can give her the drama and angst. He needs to restore Blair's faith in her self, in him and in their relationship and love. No that won't be an easy feat and to some may seem down right impossible but Chuck won't be able to prove himself to her in that way until he learnd to better manage the demons weighing his own soul down. Making peace with his father and breaking free of that unhealthy relationship, opening himself up to people and trusting them, bascially becoming a stronger emotionally healthy person so he can in turn be stronger for Blair and their relationship more healthies and solid.

I want to see him support Blair in a real menaingful way without repayment in return. Not to try to win her affections or love or a place in her heart but sleflessly out of love. Blair said that he carries people he carries her. I want to see that become the theme for CB rebuild- Chuck carrying Blair and being there for her through some tragedy or drama simply out of love and then it can be Blair's choice if she is willinging to pursue a relationship with him again, rather then Chuck trying or doing something to win her back or try to force her hand to taking him back.

It is a gross missconception that CBers ship the couple in their current state- they don't. They ship them for the potential they have to be great once they find their way back from the dark place they fell into. As Safran said...."its always dark before the dawn". They want to see CB rise from the ashes and grow from the dark place.

Dan has seen the good/vunerable side of Blair and he has grown feelings for THAT version of Blair but not the WHOLE sum of Blair- infact he REJECTS the grey/dark/wild side of Blair in 4.07. Chuck loves ALL of Blair FOR both her good and bad sides.


Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому
 
МарисонДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 14:17 | Сообщение # 2918
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а вот всё на счёт фото думаю, где Чак и Блэр на стульях. Может это помолвка с принцем и там принц сидит, а Блэр будет на его месте Чака представлять??? dry

 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 14:28 | Сообщение # 2919
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а вот всё на счёт фото думаю, где Чак и Блэр на стульях. Может это помолвка с принцем и там принц сидит, а Блэр будет на его месте Чака представлять???

Принц не еврей по национальности. И вряд ли семей приближенных к царским, таким образом проходит обряд обручения.


Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому
 
MirabellaДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 14:43 | Сообщение # 2920
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Cyon80, мне очень понравился "размышлизм". Выглядит действительно здраво. И я была бы рада видеть именно такое развитие событий, даже если ради этого нам придется некоторое время потерпеть ДБ. И я думаю, что сценаристы мыслят в том же направлении ))) Я не думаю, что этот сезон закончится воссоединением ЧБ, но думаю, что весь 5-й будет построен на том, чтобы создать для этого твердую платформу.
 
v_e_l_e_n_aДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 15:45 | Сообщение # 2921
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Cyon80, спасибо за статью. Автору браво!
 
МарисонДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 16:20 | Сообщение # 2922
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Cyon80, как здорово всё расписано, очень точно подмечены все моменты

 
Cyon80Дата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 16:53 | Сообщение # 2923
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B is wearing this Alexis Mabille couture dress


Моё "люблю" слишком дорого стоит... Говорю это редко и мало кому

Сообщение отредактировал Cyon80 - Пятница, 15.04.2011, 16:54
 
SophiaFДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 17:13 | Сообщение # 2924
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платье шикарное
фотка...ммммм....аж слюни текут(и размышления)
но вот "спойлер"(именно в кавычках")
про то что в Би полетит тлелвизор убил,сказали же что Чак никогда не будет наносить физ.вред Би!!

definitely not watch Monday’s episode within reach of any throwable objects that have the potential to inflict pain on friends, family members — or dare we say that it — that very-pricey-just-purchased flat screen TV when thrown in frustration. You’ve been warned.

 
SophiaFДата: Пятница, 15.04.2011, 17:23 | Сообщение # 2925
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еще раз посмотрела фото.
нет ну они нас Д У Р Я Т
потому что там сто процентов хоровод те Блер еще за кого то держится))
так что еще не факт
и ваще почему евреи?
ну то есть к чему?к Сайрусу?
может это его день рожденья?!
 
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